the intermission that we have coming into washington from a far is limited and imperfect. there are and nuns out there that we simply cannot know. -- unknowns out there. one as an analyst has to bear that in mind thinking where this can go. we simply do not know. >> with that pessimistic but very realistic and honest one, i want to thank you joseph and the mona for a very stimulating discussion. thank you to the audience for your questions. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> today on newsmakers, we're joined by elliot engel. he will talk about how the house and senate are winning issues around the september attack on the u.s. consulatein benghazi and the state department report in hearings held last week on the attack. >> if you work for him, you would get a material, sometimes generous overbearing, sometimes almost cruel boss. he did not know how to apologize. men of his age and class, they're not going to apologize to a young secretary or typist. he had a way of sort of turning th